Topic: Search Engine Traffic vs traffic trades and link exchanges
Lead by: NubianPrince
Wednesday November 19, 2003

[22:01] <Gothbox> Welcome Grouchy [22:01] <undermyspell> blah blah blah [22:01] <Gothbox> lol [22:01] <undermyspell> i'm hearing static on my speakers they must be broken [22:01] * princess tackle hugs jan [22:01] <Gothbox> roflmao [22:01] <undermyspell> now that sounds like a hell of a lot of fun [22:01] <undermyspell> why didn't I get one of those in Memphis? [22:01] <Gothbox> cause you were too busy with the slot machines [22:02] <Gothbox> So where is mr. nubian? [22:02] <undermyspell> how would you know after that 10th vodka tonic i'm surprised you saw anything [22:02] <princess> next time I see ya [22:02] <Gothbox> :) [22:02] <undermyspell> woohooo [22:02] <Gothbox> thats my new favorite drink [22:02] <undermyspell> bleck [22:02] <princess> I love that drink [22:02] <princess> HEY! I have a oldie everyone knows [22:02] * princess laffs her tail off [22:02] <Gothbox> along with the "call a cab" [22:03] <Gothbox> what is it [22:03] * princess slow dances to .»{ Oldies - Peter, Paul, and Mary - Puff The Magic Dragon }«. (3.15MB/128Kbps/3:26) [22:03] * princess dies laffing [22:03] <Gothbox> oh geeeez [22:03] <Gothbox> that is old [22:03] <undermyspell> I had no clue that was about drugs until I met goth [22:03] <princess> I still have the 45 to that song [22:03] <Gothbox> shut up [22:03] <undermyspell> I think that was written before you were born honey [22:03] <Gothbox> you still have 45's [22:03] <princess> yeah I do [22:03] <Gothbox> 8 track too? [22:03] <princess> still have 8 tracks too and a 8 track player [22:03] <princess> lol [22:03] * princess is OLD [22:04] <Gothbox> how about a phonograph? [22:04] <princess> OH KMA! [22:04] <Gothbox> roflmao [22:04] <Gothbox> roflmao [22:04] <handyman46> no she is not I still have 78's [22:04] <undermyspell> i'm sitting right behind him if you want me to slap him in the back of the head [22:04] <undermyspell> yeah I do too handyman [22:04] <princess> I was gonna say [22:04] <undermyspell> if it's vinyl i've got it [22:04] * Gothbox rolls on the floor laughin [22:04] <princess> jan he's being mean to me! [22:04] <undermyspell> *boot to the head* [22:05] <undermyspell> if he's not nice I won't let him have any treats in Vegas.. and he knows what I mean [22:05] <Gothbox> I can have all the nudie bars I want [22:05] <undermyspell> not when I have the credit cards [22:05] <Gothbox> lmao [22:05] <undermyspell> and the bank cards [22:05] <Gothbox> I have cash [22:05] <undermyspell> and the cash [22:05] <Gothbox> Ill sell my body on the corner [22:05] <undermyspell> LMAO [22:05] <undermyspell> LMAO [22:05] <undermyspell> LMAO [22:05] <undermyspell> LMAO [22:05] <princess> Origins: No, [22:05] <princess> "Puff, the Magic Dragon" is not about marijuana, or any other type of drug. It is what its writers have always claimed it to be: a song about the innocence of childhood lost. [22:05] <undermyspell> ROFL [22:06] <undermyspell> you are naive aren't you princess [22:06] <princess> The poem that formed the basis of the song "Puff, the Magic Dragon" was written in 1959 by Leonard Lipton, a nineteen-year-old Cornell student. Lipton was inspired by an Ogden Nash rhyme about a "Really-O Truly-O Dragon," and, using a dragon as the central figure, he came up with a poem about the end of childhood innocence. [22:06] <Gothbox> ha ha ha ha she proved you wrong ums [22:06] <undermyspell> bah.... [22:06] * princess giggles [22:07] * Gothbox moons undermyspell [22:07] <undermyspell> whatever.. i'll spend the next 2 years on the internet just to find why it was referenced to drugs [22:07] <princess> the drug thing is a urban legend [22:07] <Gothbox> and marsha just keeps rubbing it in [22:07] <undermyspell> *undermyspell stickers her finger in gothbox's ass [22:07] <undermyspell> sticks [22:07] <princess> what does living by the sea have to do with drugs? [22:07] <princess> just cause it says puff? [22:08] <Gothbox> thats what im talking about. Kick her while she is down [22:08] <undermyspell> she's in her own little puff the magic dragon world now [22:08] <undermyspell> everyone just put her on mute [22:08] <Gothbox> ok where is nubian prince he had the idea for the chat topic [22:08] <undermyspell> I'm thinking someone should have probably posted the reminder on the board [22:08] <princess> We did [22:09] <Gothbox> reminder my a$$ it was his idea to have a chat [22:09] <Gothbox> lol [22:09] <undermyspell> you did? [22:09] <Gothbox> yeah [22:09] <Gothbox> duh [22:09] <undermyspell> well hell spam your damn icq list marsha [22:09] <Gothbox> if you would ever visit ratedhot you would know [22:09] <undermyspell> if I knew how I would [22:09] <undermyspell> ohhh.. that reminds me.. what is your post count goth? [22:09] <princess> Im spamming [22:10] *** Joins: StudBoy (Hottie@67.71.16.54) [22:11] * princess hugs StudBoy [22:11] <StudBoy> what the ! [22:11] <Gothbox> hold on ill go look [22:11] <StudBoy> where is everyone ? [22:11] <Gothbox> 529 why? [22:11] <princess> I'm spamming [22:11] <Gothbox> theres like 34 peopole in here cant you see them? [22:11] <princess> but only people on rated hot [22:11] <undermyspell> me too [22:11] <undermyspell> although mine is like hunt and peck [22:11] <undermyspell> lol [22:11] <undermyspell> not many of my rated hot peeps are on [22:11] <undermyspell> welcome studboy [22:12] <princess> java is loading slow for prince [22:12] <undermyspell> LOL [22:12] <StudBoy> i think my browser is fucking up 2nite [22:12] * princess shakes his tailfeathers to .»{ Oldies - Chuck Berry - My Dingaling }«. (3.99MB/128Kbps/4:22) [22:12] <StudBoy> im already here sweetie :D [22:12] <undermyspell> that's what he gets for being all the way up in canuck country [22:12] <Gothbox> Princess why you ask my post count? [22:12] <princess> I didn't ask billy [22:12] <princess> jan did [22:12] <StudBoy> nothing wrong with canad gyal [22:12] <Gothbox> who did [22:12] <undermyspell> you have a dingaling princess? [22:12] <undermyspell> just teasing ya [22:12] *** Joins: PiksalDesign (~Hottie@cpe-024-033-149-161.woh.rr.com) [22:12] <princess> I'm playing old songs [22:12] <Gothbox> ok sorry [22:12] * princess hugs PiksalDesign [22:13] <PiksalDesign> Howdy. [22:13] <undermyspell> welcome piksal [22:13] <Gothbox> ums what about my post count? [22:13] *** Quits: StudBoy (Hottie@67.71.16.54) (Later Gators) [22:13] <undermyspell> oh lord she's gonna slip into a nostalgic mood [22:13] <Gothbox> I would spam my icq list, but both people on my icq list are already in here [22:13] <undermyspell> you said I don't visit enough yet my post count is doubled yours [22:13] <princess> lol [22:13] <princess> there is more on your list then just us [22:13] <undermyspell> no there isn't princess [22:13] *** Joins: BTA (~Hottie@150.101.91.181) [22:13] <Gothbox> well it has taken you 6 months to achieve what I have done in 2 [22:14] <Gothbox> nope princess just you 2 [22:14] * princess hugs BTA [22:14] <undermyspell> except my boss and well, we don't want him here..... geez [22:14] <undermyspell> welcome BTA [22:14] <BTA> hey marsha :) hey ums [22:14] [Gothbox SOUND] [22:14] <princess> sorry BOB! figured you might wanna make it.. and I just like the name BOB! lol [22:15] <BTA> lol [22:15] <Gothbox> so princess tell us why you like the name BOB [22:15] <undermyspell> bob you screw me up everytime you use BTA.. it takes me 5 minutes to remember who you are [22:15] <princess> BOB! rocks! he feels good!.. lol need more? [22:15] <Gothbox> nope i get the point [22:15] <BTA> I didn't even know people were talking to me the first time they called me BTA :) [22:15] <princess> goth you had prince thinking there was 35 in here [22:16] <Gothbox> roflmao [22:16] <princess> ok thats enough of the dingaling song [22:16] <undermyspell> same with people calling me UMS [22:16] <Gothbox> there is. can you not see them either [22:16] <undermyspell> I thought they were just thinking really hard [22:16] *** Joins: N (Hottie@67.71.16.54) [22:16] * princess hugs prince [22:16] *** princess changes topic to 'Search Engine Traffic vs traffic trades and link exchanges' [22:16] <BTA> LOL, yeh, it look ed like an "ummmmm" to me too [22:16] <undermyspell> is prince N???? [22:16] <princess> yeah [22:16] <princess> I think so has the same IP [22:17] <undermyspell> well there's nothing wrong with ummmm's or ooooohs or aaaaaaahs [22:17] <undermyspell> but it was a bit confusing [22:17] <N> you damn people !! [22:17] <N> where is everyone ? [22:17] <Gothbox> your the one that is late [22:17] <BTA> howdy prince [22:17] <undermyspell> LOL [22:17] <Gothbox> lol [22:17] <princess> I haven't seen the taboo crew on this week. [22:17] <N> sorry man ..java hates me ! [22:17] <undermyspell> nope... taboo gal is on the board right now [22:17] <Gothbox> yeah had that problem last week [22:17] *** Joins: Vendzilla (~Hottie@ts46-01-qdr2620.rddng.ca.charter.com) [22:17] <princess> hi Vendzilla *HUGS*! [22:18] <undermyspell> welcome vend... better late than never [22:18] <PiksalDesign> brb [22:18] <BTA> hey vend [22:18] <Vendzilla> Cool, it's so warm in here [22:18] <N> should we wait to see if a few more peeps would show up ? [22:18] <Gothbox> Ok well guys I have to go now. Gotta get up early for work in the a.m. [22:18] * princess spanks goth [22:18] <princess> no you don't! [22:18] <N> looks like everyone is about to leave then [22:18] <Gothbox> roflmao [22:18] <Vendzilla> I just got here [22:18] *** Joins: Ozzymosis (~ozzymosis@dsl3-63-249-66-93.cruzio.com) [22:18] <BTA> me too! [22:18] <princess> Ozzy! [22:18] <undermyspell> welcome ozzy [22:19] <Ozzymosis> Hello [22:19] <princess> the one that's been giving us the excellent traffic prizes [22:19] <Ozzymosis> Thank you [22:19] <undermyspell> stop that princess [22:19] <BTA> hey oz [22:19] <princess> stop what? [22:19] <undermyspell> yes... *APPLAUSE* [22:19] <undermyspell> stop saying hello before me [22:19] <Ozzymosis> How is everyone? [22:19] <princess> I just type too fast sorry [22:19] <undermyspell> I like to be line leader every once in a while [22:19] <undermyspell> sheesh [22:19] <Gothbox> :applause: [22:19] <Vendzilla> Just started my vacation [22:19] <N> they are all trying to give me a hard time man [22:19] <Gothbox> :bye: [22:19] <princess> vacation? [22:19] <undermyspell> going anywhere besides your desk vend? [22:19] <princess> oh wow! doing anything fun? [22:19] <BTA> where abouts vend [22:19] <BTA> cya gothy [22:20] <N> :mad: [22:20] <Gothbox> I didnt mean to hit that actually [22:20] *** Joins: RedMonkey (Hottie@pcp01320362pcs.toresd01.pa.comcast.net) [22:20] <Vendzilla> Just working around the house [22:20] <undermyspell> welcome red [22:20] <RedMonkey> hey there [22:20] <undermyspell> hahahahaha [22:20] <RedMonkey> hi [22:20] *** Joins: Astroboy (~Hottie@150.101.91.181) [22:20] <undermyspell> I did it [22:20] <princess> hi RedMonkey did you finish your domain thingie? [22:20] <undermyspell> welcome astro [22:20] <BTA> hey redmonkey, hey astro [22:20] <Gothbox> :hello: [22:20] <undermyspell> hey I think this is more than last week [22:20] <Astroboy> hey everybody [22:20] * princess hugs Astroboy and RedMonkey [22:20] <RedMonkey> anybody have experience with domain name transfer using directnic? [22:20] <RedMonkey> lol [22:20] <Astroboy> * hugs everyone [22:20] <Gothbox> Oh directnic is the biggest pain in the ass [22:21] <princess> I've transfered a few domains. but not with directnic.. but with two other companies [22:21] <undermyspell> only to watch what's up because they totally screwed up our registration date and we almost got sued over it [22:21] <BTA> is this chat at this time every week? [22:21] * Astroboy wants to be like Mike! [22:21] <Astroboy> heheh this is great [22:21] <undermyspell> yes as far as we know bta [22:21] <princess> yeah Bob it is [22:21] <Gothbox> yes it is [22:21] <Gothbox> 10 pm est wednesday [22:21] <RedMonkey> cool thanks [22:21] <undermyspell> unless there is a huge conflict and then we will rework it [22:21] <BTA> cool! I can join in every week then [22:21] <RedMonkey> Hey astro are you pornmasters astro? [22:21] <undermyspell> what time is it there bta? [22:21] <Gothbox> or everyone including the chat master is late then we might have to reschedule [22:21] <Astroboy> pornmasters astro??? umm yeh ok i will be [22:21] <undermyspell> someone call tafkap and wake his butt up..... [22:21] <Gothbox> j/k [22:22] <BTA> it's 2 in the arvo here [22:22] <undermyspell> what's an arvo? [22:22] <Astroboy> you mean 10 mins to 2 [22:22] <undermyspell> LOL [22:22] <princess> ok Prince if you're ready we can start ;) [22:22] <Astroboy> 9 mins [22:22] <Astroboy> what ever [22:22] <BTA> lol, australian for afternoon [22:22] <RedMonkey> just someone else a friend of mines partner thought you might be him [22:22] <N> ok people 2 mins then im gonna have to put everyone back in their cell .. [22:22] <undermyspell> ahhhh.... [22:22] <Astroboy> ah ok [22:22] <Astroboy> yeh its a nice arvo here [22:22] <undermyspell> damn you're in the wrong area of porn prince... you should become a dominatrix [22:23] <N> LOL [22:23] <Gothbox> roflmao [22:23] <Gothbox> ROFLMAO [22:23] [Vendzilla SOUND] [22:23] [Vendzilla SOUND] [22:23] <Gothbox> ok lets talk [22:23] <Astroboy> didn't hear it damn it [22:23] [Astroboy SOUND] [22:23] <Gothbox> hit "on" on your speakers [22:23] <Vendzilla> ok I'm jusstplaying with everything [22:23] <undermyspell> they're called speakers and you usually have to turn them on first [22:23] <N> actually i may just do that ..i kno wu women love to be spanked! [22:23] <undermyspell> shut up goth [22:23] <Astroboy> heheh thats didn't sound to enthused [22:23] <Gothbox> lol [22:24] <N> ok people...time to chat [22:24] <Vendzilla> :applause: [22:24] <BTA> :cool: [22:24] <undermyspell> thought that's what we were doing.... [22:24] <Astroboy> got ehad phones gotta pu them on me head buti don't usually like doing that cos it usually messes up my hair ;) [22:24] <Gothbox> were listening [22:24] <N> tonight's topic is search engine traffic vs trades and link exchanges [22:24] * undermyspell fall down laughing .... [22:24] <BTA> soooo.... [22:24] <BTA> where to start [22:24] <Vendzilla> I like both [22:24] <undermyspell> and..... [22:24] <undermyspell> well........ [22:24] <Gothbox> Search engine traffic is by far better and more targeted [22:24] <Gothbox> lol [22:25] <N> which do you guys think is more productive ? [22:25] <undermyspell> se traffic naturally [22:25] <Gothbox> search engine of course [22:25] <princess> why gothbox? [22:25] <BTA> yep [22:25] <Vendzilla> 1 feeds the other with tgp's [22:25] *** Joins: Hottie (Hottie@64.7.24.226) [22:25] <Astroboy> yep [22:25] <Hottie> kaitech [22:25] <princess> keep in mind someone like me is more familar with resources then traffic.. [22:25] <BTA> howdy kaitech [22:25] *** Quits: Hottie (Hottie@64.7.24.226) (Later Gators) [22:25] <undermyspell> hey kai [22:25] <Gothbox> well its more targeted. poeople go to se for that exact thing [22:25] *** Joins: Hottie (Hottie@64.7.24.226) [22:25] <Gothbox> to find what they are looking for [22:25] <princess> hiya kaitech! *hugs* [22:25] <Astroboy> yeht hats right better for conversions [22:25] *** Quits: Hottie (Hottie@64.7.24.226) (Later Gators) [22:26] *** Joins: kaitech (Hottie@64.7.24.226) [22:26] <kaitech> hey folks [22:26] <Gothbox> link exchanges or traffic trades are more likely to be blind links [22:26] <N> ok then why is everyone so caught up in traffic trades then ? [22:26] <undermyspell> you know that they aren't being blindly sent to your site and that they were actually looking for the particular term they found you under [22:26] <Vendzilla> you can only get so much traffic with SE's, you need trades to get the real numbers [22:26] <Gothbox> and not as targeted [22:26] <undermyspell> because it helps build bookmarks and traffic [22:26] <Gothbox> yeah but what is better numbers or targets [22:26] <Astroboy> well i guess alot of people recon they can boost their page ranks with lots of links to their own site [22:26] <undermyspell> you want your steady bookmarks coming back to your site because they are the ones that will generally do more clicking and purchasing other than se's [22:26] <Gothbox> quantity vs. quality [22:26] <Astroboy> i recon you should do both [22:27] <Vendzilla> you need to be careful with who you trade with to keep it more targeted [22:27] <Gothbox> ill take the quality over the pure numbers [22:27] *** Quits: RedMonkey (Hottie@pcp01320362pcs.toresd01.pa.comcast.net) (Later Gators) [22:27] <Astroboy> yep thats true [22:27] *** Joins: RedMonkey (Hottie@pcp01320362pcs.toresd01.pa.comcast.net) [22:27] <Astroboy> wouldn't trade asian with tranny [22:27] <princess> yeah but don't traffic trades help with link popularity? [22:27] <Astroboy> unless it was asian trannies... there are alot of those in Thailand ive been told ;) [22:27] <Gothbox> nope but I would trade a tranny for an asian ;) [22:27] <BTA> lol [22:27] <princess> lol [22:27] <Astroboy> hahahah [22:27] <Vendzilla> Yes, by far and your PR [22:27] <Gothbox> yes they do princess [22:28] <Gothbox> purely because of the numbers you can achieve [22:28] <undermyspell> any kind of incoming link to your site with a site with equal or higher pr will boost your pr [22:28] [Astroboy SOUND] [22:28] <Gothbox> but do you want to pay for bandwidth or sell products [22:28] <N> so tell me something people what about buying traffic does that really work ? [22:28] <Astroboy> bandwidth isn't really that much of a cost is it? [22:28] <princess> it's all very confusing when you think about it. link popularity, pr's alexa.. how can one possible do everything to please every little SE out there? [22:28] <undermyspell> not in my opinion [22:28] <Gothbox> depends nubian [22:28] <BTA> depends on the quality prince [22:28] <kaitech> yeah that is something I was wondering and looking at [22:28] <Gothbox> on the quality of traffic [22:28] <Vendzilla> with 100 k hits you have a good chance of selling something [22:29] <princess> wb kaitech [22:29] <Gothbox> Ozzy that is your field of expertise [22:29] <Astroboy> i don't think buying it is really worth it [22:29] <undermyspell> it works to boost your incoming traffic and sometimes your bookmarks and to get trades started but I never look at buying traffic to make a sale [22:29] <kaitech> thx [22:29] <Astroboy> how are you suppose to know how good the traffic is [22:29] <N> hey ozzy you should be able to help in that area..buying traffic [22:29] <Gothbox> you dont until you test it [22:29] <Astroboy> ahhhh.... [22:29] <Gothbox> and the same traffic sent to 2 different sites might not do as good on one as the other [22:29] <Astroboy> thats annoying cos u could loose alot of money testing [22:29] <Astroboy> hmm yes [22:29] <Gothbox> once you have the traffic its up to the site owner to sell the product [22:29] <undermyspell> it's tough... a lot of the traffic brokers out there are all using recycled traffic so it doesn't help that much.. unless you come across someone selling fresh traffic it's tough [22:30] *** Joins: Terr (~Hottie@ip68-1-226-231.dl.dl.cox.net) [22:30] <undermyspell> A lot of people approach the big tgp's and freesites and buy traffic direct from them [22:30] <princess> hi Terr [22:30] <undermyspell> welcome terr [22:30] <BTA> hey terra [22:30] <Astroboy> how likely is that? [22:30] <Terr> Hey everyone sorry I am running late [22:30] <N> u have a point their undermyspell [22:30] <Gothbox> :banghead: [22:30] <undermyspell> what to buy from the big sites? [22:30] <Astroboy> :applause: [22:30] <Vendzilla> they have the most to sell [22:30] <undermyspell> it's actually becoming quite common [22:31] <Vendzilla> choker sites [22:31] <undermyspell> but there are some of the big sites that are so full of themselves that their traffic is outrageous [22:31] <Astroboy> choker sites? [22:31] <princess> choker sites? [22:31] <N> how about the traffic that comes from sex.xom is that productive ? [22:31] <Gothbox> but be careful as these "big" sites start seeing that people want to buy thier traffic they just might [22:31] <undermyspell> choker... choke a chicken [22:31] <BTA> is that like spam sites? [22:31] <kaitech> choke her sites [22:31] <Gothbox> start ahhhhhhhh I forgot [22:31] <Gothbox> never used it [22:32] <Vendzilla> choker is a string of sites that sell there traffic [22:32] <princess> oh ok [22:32] <princess> well it's almost impossible to get a link trade with a big tgp site.. so that's out! [22:33] <Gothbox> now if sex.com redirected to my tgp I wold be very happy but dont know about their actual sold traffic [22:33] <BTA> ah.... [22:33] <RedMonkey> Hey any trades on ethnic sites r welcome with me small ethnic site here [22:33] *** Quits: kaitech (Hottie@64.7.24.226) (Later Gators) [22:33] <undermyspell> some say that choker has the most productive traffic on the web for adult.. however, I bought some from him and it came so slowly that I didn't see any productivity [22:33] <Vendzilla> I think it's Chokertraffic.com [22:33] <Astroboy> think i should go and do some work [22:33] <N> LOL @ redmonkey [22:33] <BTA> yeh, I gotta get these banners done soon [22:33] <Astroboy> yeh same [22:33] <Astroboy> later guys [22:33] <Astroboy> work calls [22:33] <RedMonkey> what do people in here consider bug based upon uniques? [22:33] <undermyspell> think it's http://www.galleryspots.com [22:33] <RedMonkey> big* [22:33] <undermyspell> later astro [22:33] *** Quits: Astroboy (~Hottie@150.101.91.181) (Later Gators) [22:33] *** Joins: kaitech (Hottie@64.7.24.226) [22:33] <Vendzilla> I never had any luck with bought traffic, now I just get it the old fashion way [22:33] <Gothbox> well go and purchase say 100k traffic then sign up for trade with big tgp [22:33] <N> well as a big site its hard to trade with a new site knowing yoru not gonna get anything back [22:33] <undermyspell> oh man... I would say in excess of 250,000 uniques a day is pretty big [22:33] <princess> cya BOB *HUGS*~! [22:33] <RedMonkey> as far as "big" tgps, realistically big [22:33] <BTA> cya all :) [22:33] [BTA SOUND] [22:34] <Gothbox> well for me anything over 2k is big ha ha ha [22:34] <RedMonkey> whats reasonable traffic [22:34] <undermyspell> later bta [22:34] <BTA> :bye: [22:34] <Gothbox> later BTA [22:34] <undermyspell> incoming red? [22:34] *** Quits: BTA (~Hottie@150.101.91.181) (Later Gators) [22:34] <RedMonkey> incming where? [22:34] <kaitech> later bta [22:34] <Terr> 250,000 a day.......I am happy at this point with anyting over 200 hundred [22:34] <N> later BTA [22:34] <Gothbox> lmao @ terr [22:34] <princess> I'm just happy for what ever I get on my tgp. [22:34] <Vendzilla> I'll get mine there someday soon [22:34] <Terr> :( [22:34] <Terr> I am trying [22:34] <undermyspell> you asked what reasonable traffic was and I asked if you're talking about incoming to your site [22:34] <RedMonkey> to be honest I do better with galleries then tgps [22:35] <Gothbox> has anyone used paid placement on any of the search engines? [22:35] <kaitech> I am looking to better my sites [22:35] <princess> I make more when I submit galleries.. plus I get tons more traffic [22:35] <Vendzilla> galleries burn up too much bandwidth for me [22:35] <RedMonkey> the stories of paying google for adwords isnt goo [22:35] <RedMonkey> good [22:35] <N> actually ive been thinking about trying sex.com and see if it really works [22:35] <undermyspell> I think for tgp's and galleries it's very difficult to do well with paid adwords [22:35] <kaitech> i have with google [22:35] <Gothbox> Just wondering was seriously thinking of looking into that area for targeted traffic [22:35] <Terr> I am hoping that my traffic will start to pick up, Like I posted on the boards I have just signed an agreement with a webmaster that has never done adult but knows a lot about seo and design in general [22:36] <undermyspell> there's just way too much competition out there [22:36] <kaitech> i was happy with it [22:36] <handyman46> sex.com sucks unless it is really niche targetted [22:36] <N> well thats the plan handyman...if im gonna do anything it would be niche targeted [22:37] <princess> so if tgp's and galleries don't work why are soo many doing it? or how are they making cash at it [22:37] <undermyspell> it seems like micro niche is becoming the trend for making the big money [22:37] <Gothbox> ok off topic, but a bit on topic. Who is going to Inext in January? [22:37] <N> thats a good question Di [22:37] <Vendzilla> me [22:37] <princess> I think so prince [22:37] <princess> I'll be there of course :) [22:37] <Gothbox> yes you will. [22:37] <Gothbox> lol [22:37] <handyman46> you also have to be prepared to do a serious test with there stuff over the long term it works well [22:38] <undermyspell> I don't think they are making cash at it necessarily.. the newer ones to the biz I think are doing a lot of the ripping off like the dialer downloads and pop up hells [22:38] <princess> brb maygan woke up and needs me [22:38] <Gothbox> of course tgps and galleries work and no matter how much any one bitches it will always work [22:38] <N> why do you guys waste so much time on tgp's? [22:38] <Gothbox> you think its a waste [22:38] <Gothbox> ? [22:38] <undermyspell> I use them strictly for traffic purposes and testing on other stuff [22:38] <Gothbox> then you need to start over on your tgp if you have one cause they do make some cash [22:38] <kaitech> i am starting to think why i spend on my tgp [22:38] <undermyspell> I don't realistically expect to sell anything directly from my tgp when it happens it's great but I don't count on it [22:39] <Vendzilla> I'm useing mine to build up insane amounts of traffic( someday) [22:39] <Gothbox> but ums we do make good cash on tgps [22:39] <undermyspell> yeah we do but that's not the intention [22:39] <N> LOL>..goth i was just expanding on Di'd question [22:39] <undermyspell> at least on mine [22:39] <undermyspell> I like to use mine to test clickability on new sponsors and things like that... [22:39] <Gothbox> yeah didnt mean to come off like that. Was just trying to get my point out there that tgps do make money [22:39] <Gothbox> sorry [22:39] <Gothbox> lol [22:40] <undermyspell> who else in here runs a tgp? [22:40] <Vendzilla> I know a couple of webmasters that make bank on tgp's [22:40] <Terr> shit bbl kiddo waking up [22:40] <undermyspell> and do you make a profit on it and if so does it seem to be worth the time? [22:40] *** Quits: Terr (~Hottie@ip68-1-226-231.dl.dl.cox.net) (Later Gators) [22:40] <Gothbox> i bet everyone in here secretly runs one. [22:40] <Gothbox> lol [22:40] <N> i do believe tgp's make money ...just wanted to know why some people prefer running tgp's instead of paysites [22:40] <kaitech> lol [22:40] <Gothbox> its easier [22:40] <undermyspell> a hell of a lot less work [22:40] <Vendzilla> with the right script [22:41] <Gothbox> you can acutally have a good tgp and have it run itself [22:41] <kaitech> yeah i guess that is why i do also [22:41] <kaitech> too much work involved [22:41] <Gothbox> with no work from you and it doesnt cost to update it. Its cheaper [22:41] <N> and i do run a tgp undermyspell..one thats been getting alot of attention these days [22:41] <undermyspell> you don't have to buy content.. you don't have to have a payment processor to deal with [22:41] <princess> ok back [22:41] <undermyspell> you don't have chargebacks and shitty customers [22:41] <PiksalDesign> me too [22:41] <Gothbox> plus you get all the free porn yu could ever want to look at [22:41] <undermyspell> and the list goes on and on [22:41] <Gothbox> ;) [22:41] <handyman46> but you still have to find the traffic [22:41] *** Quits: RedMonkey (Hottie@pcp01320362pcs.toresd01.pa.comcast.net) (Later Gators) [22:42] <Gothbox> well you still have to find traffic for paysites [22:42] <princess> traffic has always been the hardest thing for me. [22:42] <Vendzilla> but everyone has to find traffic [22:42] <Gothbox> and traffic for tgps is easier to get than for paysites [22:42] <Gothbox> why pay for milk when you can have the whole cow [22:42] <handyman46> ahhhh but you can purchase the traffic fo that [22:42] <kaitech> lol [22:42] <undermyspell> are you calling me a cow goth? [22:42] <N> true goth...and with a tgp you can always sell your pay site..LOL [22:42] <Gothbox> you said it not me [22:42] <Vendzilla> builg a great tgp then aim the traffic at your paysite [22:42] <Gothbox> exactly nubian [22:43] <Gothbox> and vend [22:43] <princess> so are you saying that if you have a tgp you should have a paysite too? [22:43] <Gothbox> no not saying that [22:43] <undermyspell> no not necessarily [22:43] <undermyspell> you can use it toward sponsors [22:43] <kaitech> hmm... still too much work maintaining the paysite [22:43] <Gothbox> you could send the traffic elsewhere too [22:43] <N> i think most smart webmasters start tgp's with the intention of redirecting traffic to their future paysites.. [22:43] <princess> sorry you know i have to play the newbie lol that's how I learn even more [22:43] <Gothbox> like to a hub page and start sorting that traffic out and targetting it to your other free sites [22:44] <Vendzilla> I send traffic from my tgp to my AVS site's [22:44] <PiksalDesign> :D [22:44] <undermyspell> plus running a tgp is great experience in learning how to build traffic, build pr and se ranking without having to spend money to build and maintain a paysite [22:44] <handyman46> here is a thought if you have a paysite and you have good SE listings and where necessary you purchase keywords on the other se's then you are getting taretted non recycled trafficc [22:44] * Gothbox thinks princess is being a newb [22:44] <N> did anybody notice how quiet Ozzy is ??? [22:44] <princess> do you guys think it's better to have a targeted tgp then it is to have a general porn tgp? [22:44] <Gothbox> yes handy [22:44] <undermyspell> he must have this screen minimized [22:44] <undermyspell> yes it is princess [22:45] <Gothbox> yes princess [22:45] <undermyspell> from what i've seen the niche stuff seems to be the best way to go [22:45] <Gothbox> but whats even better is to start out with a general tgp. get it going then slowly start building [22:45] <Vendzilla> have a general tgp that looks like a targeted tgp to the SE"s [22:45] <Gothbox> niche tgps and trading between all of your tgps [22:45] <Gothbox> good way to get a nice network built up [22:45] <undermyspell> that's what mine is.. LOL quite by accident. The only submissions I get are big tit galleries for some reason [22:45] <N> im thinking about splitting my TGP in half [22:45] <princess> I think ozzy stepped away for a minute I messaged him on ICQ too [22:45] <Gothbox> roflmao @ ums [22:46] <Gothbox> wait nubian dont do that [22:46] <Gothbox> build another one in a different target area [22:46] <N> LOL>>why not goth ? [22:46] <Vendzilla> how do you cut it in half? [22:46] <Gothbox> and then another one then eventually add a general one [22:46] <princess> I phucked up then. I started with a general one [22:46] <Gothbox> why make one 2 halves [22:46] <Gothbox> lmao [22:46] <undermyspell> yes, build another one but have it interesting to the same surfers.. like if you have a teen tgp... then have a cheerleader tgp [22:46] <N> goo dpoint goth..i shoul djust start a new one [22:47] <Gothbox> you could also start with a general one that might even be better [22:47] <N> i already have a general tgp [22:47] <N> http://www.exotichoneys.com [22:47] <Gothbox> that way you got all sorts of niche traffic coming princess now you can go add a busty tgp and send your busty traffic from your feneral to the new one [22:47] <handyman46> ok question why are linklist's and tgp's popu;ar [22:47] <Gothbox> oh thought that was niche [22:47] <Gothbox> THEY ARE FREE PORN [22:47] <N> does link lists still exist ?? lol [22:48] <Gothbox> oh yeah they do [22:48] <undermyspell> oh yeah they do [22:48] <undermyspell> damn [22:48] <undermyspell> we've been married way too long when we start typing the same thing [22:48] <princess> good point goth [22:48] <Gothbox> we've been married way too long when we start typing the same thing [22:48] <Gothbox> roflmao [22:48] <N> MAN I THOUGHT LINK LISTS WENT INTO DINGING [22:48] <N> hiding [22:48] <Gothbox> yeah if you can afford to work on it like that then it builds a very nice network of traffic [22:49] <undermyspell> ROFLMAO [22:49] <Gothbox> roflmao [22:49] <undermyspell> was wondering what dinging was [22:49] <Gothbox> you hitting the bottle nubian? [22:49] <princess> what about top list? I've noticed that they've become a haven for CP are they useful at all? [22:49] <N> lol [22:49] <N> UNDERMYSPELL YOU ARE A TRUE PERVERT .. [22:49] <N> LOL [22:49] <Gothbox> well if you can find one with out all the gross shit on it then yes they are [22:49] <undermyspell> why thank you.. thank you very much [22:49] <handyman46> over the last 3 years I have found that the traffic from linklist's were more productive than tgp's [22:50] <undermyspell> it is hard with the linklists. a lot of them are becoming unregulated areas for cp [22:50] <undermyspell> but if you stay with the reliable established ones then you should be ok [22:50] <Gothbox> your right handy because the link list are more true meaning they arent as blind as they tgps [22:50] <N> BUT DO LINK LISTS SEND ENOUGH TRAFFIC TO CONVERT ? [22:50] <Gothbox> depends [22:50] <Gothbox> just like anything else [22:50] <Gothbox> how much traffic does the link list get [22:50] <undermyspell> yeah they do send a lot of traffic... but once again i'll say that your purpose isn't really to make sales on your tgp unless you're huuuuuge.. it's more for generating traffic [22:50] <Gothbox> is it listed on se's and if so how good is the listing [22:51] <Gothbox> do they use blind links [22:51] *** Quits: PiksalDesign (~Hottie@cpe-024-033-149-161.woh.rr.com) (Later Gators) [22:51] <Vendzilla> :bye: [22:51] *** Quits: Vendzilla (~Hottie@ts46-01-qdr2620.rddng.ca.charter.com) (Later Gators) [22:51] *** Joins: Vendzilla94 (~Hottie@ts46-01-qdr2620.rddng.ca.charter.com) [22:51] *** Quits: Vendzilla94 (~Hottie@ts46-01-qdr2620.rddng.ca.charter.com) (Later Gators) [22:51] <Gothbox> hmmmmmmmm [22:51] <Gothbox> why is everyone so quiet [22:51] <Gothbox> ? [22:51] <undermyspell> god that little action would take me 10 minutes to do on dial up [22:52] <princess> I"m reading what you guys are saying [22:52] <N> THEY ALL LEFT [22:52] <undermyspell> they probably can't get a word in edgewise goth [22:52] <undermyspell> with you talking [22:52] * Gothbox thinks marsha is a lurker [22:52] <N> LOL [22:52] <kaitech> i am reading and doing some work on the side and chating with someone and reading my email [22:52] <kaitech> i am here though [22:52] <handyman46> I have to think than takes a while for me to type [22:52] <Gothbox> youv made me come out of my shell and dammit i like to talk [22:52] <princess> we're all webmasters it's hard to just do one thing [22:53] <Gothbox> oh please. You are the queen of multitasking princess [22:53] <kaitech> lol [22:53] <undermyspell> yeah it is... sometimes i'm the queen of multi tasking and sometimes there is waaaay too much stimulation and I have to shut it down [22:53] <undermyspell> fuck you goth [22:53] <princess> but I can learn from listening as well as I can running my mouth. plus I get to come up with interesting questions to ask you all [22:53] <undermyspell> stop that shit [22:53] <Gothbox> roflmao [22:53] <Gothbox> ok since I talk to much ill just watch and learn [22:53] <princess> nah the princess of it maybe that's it [22:53] <N> do i sense a cat fight in here ? [22:53] * Gothbox just gave you a finger [22:53] <Gothbox> Hey UMS [22:53] <undermyspell> no i'm just going to slap him in the back of the head and get it over with [22:53] <undermyspell> no cat fight necessary [22:54] <kaitech> meow [22:54] <Gothbox> yes cat fight necessary I have a new camera I need content [22:54] <N> damn i was hoping for a fight .>LOL [22:54] <kaitech> lol [22:54] <undermyspell> oh yeah what kind of pics have you taken? [22:54] <princess> cat fights are between two females that are too chicken shit actually fight right.. [22:54] <princess> not between a hubby and wife lol [22:54] <Gothbox> anyways........ back to the search engines [22:55] <undermyspell> you're avoiding my question [22:55] <Gothbox> no no no marsha I was thinking maybe you and jan not me [22:55] <handyman46> ok se trafficc is best whether it is by listing or purchased sponsored spots [22:55] <Gothbox> I dont fight. im a wuss [22:55] <N> how often do u guys submit to SE's [22:55] <Gothbox> Well I tend to believe it is handyman [22:55] <Gothbox> once a month just to keep them updated [22:55] <kaitech> Why is that dmoz take forever I understand that the editors are volenteering [22:55] <princess> omg? you're suspose to submit to them? *giggle* [22:55] <undermyspell> I think it's best by listing and not by purchased ads because it's free... to me it's more productive that way [22:55] <undermyspell> LMAO [22:55] <undermyspell> blondie [22:55] <princess> I'm trickin! [22:55] <N> LOL [22:56] <N> i submit once a day.. [22:56] <undermyspell> for the same site? [22:56] <N> no for all my sites [22:56] <Gothbox> but if you are going to submit regularly you need to change some content on your pages or the se's will think your spamming the same old stuff [22:56] <undermyspell> to the same engines? [22:56] <Gothbox> or if your site doesnt change use the robots follow tag in your meta info [22:56] <N> no different engines UMS [22:56] <handyman46> hmmmm purchased spots work well for paysites as you know exactly what a join will cost if you do yur home work and kick ass [22:57] <undermyspell> what I meant was are you submitting the same sites daily to the same se's [22:57] <Gothbox> nubian that might get you in trouble and booted way down the list [22:57] <undermyspell> but I guess you answered that [22:57] <undermyspell> it's not good to submit too often to se's.. [22:57] <N> i change my meta tags every week goth [22:58] <Gothbox> if your content never changes have the robots come back in like 28 days to reindex your site so you dont have to [22:58] <princess> see I thought submitting daily was a huge no no [22:58] <Gothbox> ok then you should probably not submit but every week then [22:58] <kaitech> i thought so also I thought the mormal was 30 days [22:58] <Gothbox> or you should make use of doorway pages and not just change your normal pages [22:58] <Gothbox> that way you can keep all those old targeted keywords that you had submitted [22:58] <undermyspell> it depends on how the robot reads your site... I think several robots actually crawl in different manners [22:59] <N> ok...i was actually reading a few articles on searching SE's and spamming [22:59] <undermyspell> i've had some index me on meta tags and some index me on page content [22:59] <Gothbox> nubian read up on using doorway pages to target new keywords and search terms instead of changing your main meta info all the time [22:59] <N> i noticed most these days indexes on site content [23:00] <Gothbox> your meta tags need to be relevant to the text content on the page their located on [23:00] <N> im actually in the process of re-designing my tgp so i would consider doing that [23:00] <Gothbox> you dont want meta tag keywords that say mature plumpers and then use img alt tags that say teen blondes or the text on your page to say gay twinks [23:00] <Gothbox> keep it targeted [23:01] <Gothbox> you do it once a week. Make a new duplicate of your front page once a week and target that page to a certain set of keywords and put it where the robots can find it [23:02] <undermyspell> also here's a great site with some great tips on se tricks.. not sure with the google shake up how well it's working but here's the url anyway http://www.spider-food.net [23:02] <N> ok cool.. [23:02] <undermyspell> has some excellent suggestions [23:02] <N> sounds like alot of fucking hard work! LOL [23:02] <undermyspell> it is [23:02] <Gothbox> its not hard at all [23:02] <Gothbox> its quite easy actually and it can be pretty fun doing so [23:02] <Gothbox> yousuck ums [23:02] <Gothbox> its not hard [23:02] <princess> I think we need to get goth to build us a section on rated hot for SE info! [23:02] <undermyspell> it's a lot of work.. not that it's hard [23:02] <undermyspell> I second that motion [23:02] <undermyspell> muahahahahaha [23:03] <N> good idea Di [23:03] <princess> I think it could help everyone. I know it would me [23:03] <Gothbox> :) [23:03] <handyman46> me as well [23:03] <N> alot of guys on the hotspot message me all the time about traffic [23:03] <Gothbox> well ill get with princess and talk to her about it [23:04] *** Joins: Macho (~Hottie@adsl-35-98-214.mia.bellsouth.net) [23:04] <handyman46> I know a lot aboutpaysite traffic and purchasing not so much about tgp's [23:04] <Gothbox> your early Macho but welcome anyways [23:04] <kaitech> yeah me toos [23:04] <undermyspell> welcome macho [23:04] <kaitech> hello macho [23:04] <Macho> hi there [23:04] <handyman46> hi Macho [23:04] <princess> hi macho *hugs* dear [23:04] <Gothbox> florida is on est i believe. [23:04] <Gothbox> just kidding [23:04] <Gothbox> :) [23:05] <N> anyone knows how alexa's traffic rank differs from google's PR ? [23:05] <Macho> yes it is lol [23:05] <Gothbox> lol [23:05] <princess> I sent goth info on alexa the other day [23:05] <undermyspell> i've heard a lot of mixed reviews on alexa [23:05] <Gothbox> the idea is the same but I believe some of the algorithms to calculate might be a bit different [23:06] <undermyspell> not sure that it's reliable [23:06] <Gothbox> and it was great info too princess [23:06] <N> ive heard that aleaxa is actually powered by google [23:06] <princess> nothing is 100% reliable jan [23:06] <undermyspell> I realize that but there are just some odd readings that I find on there that don't make a lot of sense to me [23:06] <Gothbox> I am princess [23:06] <kaitech> brb folks [23:06] <Gothbox> hurry back [23:07] <Macho> Jan did you get to talk to Goth about what we spoke this morning [23:07] <princess> lately google has had odd readings [23:07] <undermyspell> briefly.. i've been grouchy and sleeping and I think he was afraid to wake me [23:07] <undermyspell> but I did mention it to him and he wants to talk to you more if you want to add him to your icq [23:08] <Macho> # [23:08] <undermyspell> 166392174 [23:08] <handyman46> I tend to use the info gathered from Alexa and google and some of the hit counters put them all together and then decide what makes sense [23:08] <N> so goth you gonna do us up a section on SE's? [23:08] <undermyspell> that's a good idea handy [23:08] <princess> good idea handyman [23:08] <Gothbox> check your stats on your server that is what is important [23:09] <Macho> whats the ICQ # [23:09] <Gothbox> you can get so much info from your server stats if you follow up on them regularly [23:09] <Gothbox> 166392174 [23:09] <undermyspell> 166392174 [23:09] <undermyspell> LOL [23:09] <Gothbox> dam you woman [23:09] <princess> such high icq numbers [23:09] <princess> lol [23:09] <Gothbox> blah blah blah [23:09] <undermyspell> this is about his 10th one [23:09] <N> yeah but most pople dont have programs installed to check server stats [23:09] <Gothbox> I still have my 5 digit number but dont know the password and dont have the email anymore [23:09] <undermyspell> he keeps getting these weird chicks stalking him and has to change [23:10] <Gothbox> well they can go get them and install them [23:10] <Gothbox> most servers should have stats [23:10] <Gothbox> if not install them [23:10] <handyman46> me too I had my first onein 96 [23:10] <princess> I still have my orginal one [23:10] <undermyspell> usually if you'll ask your host they will have access to server stats of some sort or can gain server stats [23:10] <princess> I found out the other day that my server doesn't have all the cool stats that goths does for se stats [23:11] <undermyspell> oh lord my first icq number was about 7 or so years ago [23:11] <handyman46> getting decent scripts for your stats can be a pain but then again you can write your own [23:11] <N> i install scripts that reads the server stats...i use awstats [23:11] <Gothbox> oh my god. Daves server from wehostporn.biz has the best dam stats [23:11] <Gothbox> yes awstats [23:11] <Gothbox> are bad ass [23:11] <princess> I have to get awstats installed on mine [23:12] <kaitech> guys talk with you folks again later I must go have along day tomorrow [23:12] <N> ive had awstats installed since early this yrs...man thats the best ive seen [23:12] <handyman46> do you use dave as a host [23:12] <N> latah kai .. [23:12] <princess> nite kai *HUGS*! again [23:12] <handyman46> seeyou Kai [23:12] *** Quits: kaitech (Hottie@64.7.24.226) (Later Gators) [23:13] <Gothbox> yes I do [23:13] <Gothbox> very pleased with his services [23:13] <handyman46> cool [23:13] <princess> david has a good company going [23:13] <Gothbox> yes he does [23:14] <handyman46> then I guess I will call him next week [23:14] <undermyspell> we've had very good luck with using david [23:14] <princess> he may be a horndog but he's got a good head for business [23:14] <undermyspell> our downtime has been so negligent it's not even noticeable [23:14] <undermyspell> yeah, he sends me an updated biz plan at least once a day [23:14] <undermyspell> LOL [23:14] <princess> uh huh [23:15] <Gothbox> ROFLMAO [23:15] <Gothbox> ROFLMAO [23:15] <Gothbox> sooooo true [23:15] <N> ok people i think we have learnt alot about what traffic is more productive [23:15] <handyman46> ohhh my biggest concern is uptime and scalability [23:15] <undermyspell> we really need an action for a banging gavel for prince [23:15] <Gothbox> Call DAve [23:15] <undermyspell> uptime is awesome.. never seen better [23:15] <N> Thks goth and all the other traffic gurus for your input [23:15] <undermyspell> only downtime I can say we have had is during a server move and it wasn't for very long at all [23:16] <Gothbox> Anytime Nubian [23:16] <princess> I can make a gavel action for the java ;) [23:16] <undermyspell> we need one for prince [23:16] <undermyspell> LMAO [23:16] * princess hugs prince [23:16] <princess> thanks for doing it again this week babe [23:16] <N> and to all the others cant forget you ..thanks for coming out ! [23:16] <N> you need what for me ? [23:16] <handyman46> it is fun [23:17] <undermyspell> a gavel action [23:17] <princess> a gavel action prince like [23:17] <undermyspell> so you can call order and dismiss us [23:17] * princess pounds the gavel [23:17] <undermyspell> I feel like i'm so in grade school again [23:17] <N> oh ...LOL [23:17] * princess calls this chat meeting to order *pound* [23:17] <princess> lol [23:17] <undermyspell> pound??? *perk* [23:17] <princess> lol [23:17] <N> i was actually using one of those on Di earlier today [23:17] <undermyspell> you got my attention [23:17] <undermyspell> a pound or a perk? [23:18] <Gothbox> a pound on di? [23:18] <princess> no no no jan the gavel it's self [23:18] <Gothbox> im so lost [23:18] * princess dies laffing [23:18] <N> a gavel..we were role playing winks@princess [23:18] <Gothbox> nubian did you get pics [23:18] <undermyspell> role playing?? I want to hear more of this [23:18] <N> LOL [23:18] <undermyspell> someone needs to hook their cam into this chat... hehehehe [23:18] <princess> you caused it jan [23:18] <N> we were playing judge and convict.. [23:18] <undermyspell> I caused what? [23:18] <Gothbox> how did you cause their role playing [23:18] <Gothbox> do I need to stay home during the day [23:19] <undermyspell> i'm totally bewildered [23:19] <N> LOL [23:19] <undermyspell> how did I cause it? [23:19] <N> thats all you guys get to know..you would have to torture the rest out of me !! [23:20] <undermyspell> well i'm sure that could be easily arranged.... [23:20] <Gothbox> thats ok ill pass on knowing anymore [23:20] <Gothbox> lol [23:20] <N> LOL@UMS [23:20] <princess> your picture undermyspell [23:20] <undermyspell> couple of big burly hairy gay guys... might just get ya to talkin [23:20] <princess> lol [23:20] <undermyspell> my picture? [23:20] <undermyspell> how did my picture cause role playing [23:20] <undermyspell> oh lordy i'm soooo lost [23:20] <princess> yeah the guess the hottie picture [23:20] <princess> yeah prince that was undermyspell [23:21] <N> ah dammit !! [23:21] <N> whoa ! [23:21] <undermyspell> ROFLMAO [23:21] <handyman46> woooooeeeeee [23:21] <undermyspell> *blush* [23:21] <N> pnice needs a napkin..drools all over the floor [23:21] <undermyspell> awww.. I didn't think you were gonna tell [23:21] * princess wipes the drool from prince's mouth